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Compiz is dead. Metacity is going to die. Canonical has to find a replacement WM for Unity or shove up the development of compiz to someone else. Wayland may replace X11 (and I hope it will be good once it do.) Shit happens as usual. (Even good shit.)

I'm thinking about abandoning Metacity support for my themes too. My next theme that I've started working on is not going to have a Metacity theme as I see no point in supporting it when I'm not using it and when it's going to be abandoned. A quote from the musical artist Pogo: "I don't make art for you, I make art for myself." :p In the end I just get tired of trying to fix things for stuff that I'm not using. One reason why I scrapped Zukitwo-Dark. May not be a great excuse, but lack of standards makes certain things annoying to deal with. But sometimes I also want to fix bugs for things that I don't use, because it feels better to have something that is "complete."

But when I think about all this fragmentation I also think about Elementary OS Luna that seems to do things right, especially with application design. I'm not saying that eOS Luna is perfect. Personally there are a few things about their interface that I just find a little bit annoying. Example: Docks may look nice but tend to grow annoying. I believe a desktop can work with 1 bar or panel. 1 click (mostly), 1 panel, 1 everything and always accessible are my thoughts right now.

"When it's done philosophy" is actually quite nice in this society that just shoves new things up our asses and then makes us throw it away a few months later so you can consume more and repeat. I'm not thinking about using a tablet or smartphone in the following 5 years for example. So why don't I use MATE, KDE, XFCE or Cinnamon then? Well, I feel that one extra push is needed to hopefully bring in some new good standards. I hope for CSS-styled interfaces and javascript for extensions and small apps. Actually I do use XFCE from time to time, so I have that little thing in mind, but I do hope they switch to GTK3 soon or I'll have to abandon that one too. CSS just makes everything so much easier for a designer and I see no point in not supporting it fully.

And some thoughts about that Cinnamon desktop. It feels very amateurish as of right now. I have to configure it for over an hour to make it look the way I want, and even then it's not perfect. Gnome 3.8 may bring a "fallback" desktop that may be similar to the old Gnome setup. I wonder if that will do it better than Cinnamon.

I can always complain, but I suppose if I want something perfect I'll have to do it myself. I've started to read up on javascript so I can try to do something myself.
We'll see what comes next. In 10 years we may need to create interfaces for holographic displays. :P
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:iconbeta992:
Please make (or port) your theme's to KDE. It's just a great and stable DE. and it has so much customize options. :)

Why spending energy on GNOME DE-ports (XFCE, Cinnamon, Metacity, MATE) that don't have a stable platform? GTK seems to be changing so much every time.
The only one, you also mention, is Elementary (Pantheon). But they are (still) to basic (not much customizing-options, etc.).
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:iconlassekongo83:
I don't like KDE because of no CSS interface (QSS = "Won't fix" by the devs) and too complicated application design. (There's too much of everything.)
It's just too much work to switch from CSS to C++ or SVG to style every asset.
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~hundone Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Dont drop support for GTK2! Im only using the GTK2 toolkit and I plan to do so the upcoming years to. I dont like GTK3 at all, it feels bloat and what not. :D
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~half-left Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Don't blame you mate, move to KDE4 but I suppose like me you'll go where the best design, theme work is as you feel.
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:iconzamiere:
Do you plan to create something with Elementary? I like your interfaces since Eno on XP and nowadays I must use Eno Dark on Xfce if I want something simple but useful UI. Xfce is old but usable. I can't say the same about Gnome Shell, MATE or Elementary. These projects is about how to throw out old code when the new code is not ready to use yet.
I hope you'll create some new theme because nobody else can to do it.
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:iconkexolino:
How is MATE throwing away old code, when it is a fork of GNOME 2?
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:iconzamiere:
Yes you're right, MATE is old code, I wanted to write Cinnamon.
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:iconkexolino:
haha I thought I missed something :P
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=shanesemler Feb 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
I'm pretty sick of this tablet hype shit too. Tablets are nice to watch youtube videos on while sitting on the can or reading. From a creative perspective, at best, they can function as a sketchbook. It is not a form factor that you can use for everything. iPads don't even have pressure sensitivity. And I sure as hell ain't going to do motion graphics and video editing on a smartphone.

I have to say though, if you think Gnome 3 and Unity are clunky, stay far way from Windows 8. It's steaming pile.
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